Ableism often shows up in quiet, everyday ways, and many people do not even realize it. In Part 2 of our conversation on The Whole Podcast, disability rights advocate and professional speaker Kelly Narowski takes a closer look at how stigma and ableism appear in conversations, environments, and systems people interact with every day. From subtle assumptions to physical and social barriers, she explains how these experiences shape opportunities, independence, and a sense of belonging for people with disabilities.
Drawing from both lived experience and her work in disability advocacy, Kelly shares why awareness is a critical first step toward meaningful inclusion. She challenges listeners to recognize how ableism can be normalized and highlights how small shifts in attitude, language, and accessibility can make a real difference. This part of the episode builds on her earlier discussion of accessibility and encourages honest reflection on how we can all help create communities where people with disabilities feel valued and included.
If you have not watched or listened to Part 1 with Kelly Narowski, click here.
Listen to the full Part 2 episode on Spotify or YouTube.
